Dorian Grinspan is Editor in Chief of OUT OF ORDER Magazine, a fashion, art, music, and film publication created by students for students, offering a platform for young tastemakers to interact with one another and to shape popular culture. He is currently a junior at Yale University.
How did you first get interested in contemporary art?
Growing up, my parents took me to museums and galleries—but I think my interest really sparked when I moved to NY two and a half years ago. I met someone who was very passionate about art and I became increasingly passionate from then on.
Who are some of your favorite contemporary artists?
It’s hard to say, there are so many… Josh Smith, Jonathan Horowitz, Tauba Auerbach, Ryan Sullivan, Elmgreen and Dragset, as well as younger ones like the Bruces, Still House, Artie Vierkant, and so many more.
Do you live with any artwork?
I used to live with a small Rob Pruitt artwork not so long ago, until my housekeeper confused it with regular toilet paper, conveniently opened it, and set it up in the bathroom. Otherwise I have a beautiful Jonathan Horowitz Mirror #1 in Paris.
Tell us about the second issue of your magazine, OUT OF ORDER, launching this week.
There are a lot of firsts in this second issue. For example, for the first time we have advertisers, a distributor, and it’s actually for sale. More importantly, the magazine is starting to find its own voice. This second issue was a big step for us because so much has changed since we first began. The magazine started as a side project at Yale about two years ago. I was asked to work on a magazine for fashion, but ended up not liking what I was doing and quit. Eventually I rallied some others to start our own magazine, but it wasn’t until a year ago that we launched OUT OF ORDER the way it is today.
What’s involved in producing an issue?
First I meet with my editors—mostly students from Yale and other colleges—to discuss the main theme and topics to cover. Then we just have to make it all happen: shooting fashion, portraits, interviewing, reaching out to our dream contributors, gathering ad pages, laying the issue out, etc. To be honest, when I first started OOO I had no idea it would be this intense, but I still enjoy all of it very much.
What’s your perspective on the connection between contemporary art & fashion?
I read an interview with Gavin Brown recently in which he says that fashion essentially follows behind art, waiting to pick up its little golden shits. I found that really amusing. More seriously though, I think art and fashion—especially nowadays—have grown extremely close. Generally speaking, I would agree that fashion largely utilizes art to commercial ends. But I also feel that collaborations between brands and artists can lead to something really beautiful.
Could you tell us a little bit about your experience of art at Yale?
We have one of the most amazing art collections of any college in the United States. The Yale University Art Gallery is pretty impressive —especially given that they just opened a whole new wing— and the Yale Center for British Art holds the biggest collection of British art after the National Gallery. I have a Yale artist in the issue actually, and I’m working with Sam Messer and Rob Storr (Associate Dean and Dean of the graduate art school) on a project in New Haven that will hopefully happen before I graduate.
An upcoming exhibition you’re excited to attend?
The Venice Biennale!
An art book everyone should check out?
Jazz by Henri Matisse.